Honest K-POP Opinions Cuz LE SSERAFIM's Hate Train Needs To Leave The Station. (2024)

like le sserafim is my first girl kpop group I got into and I totally get they aren't the most amazing vocalists in the world but like, the hate is absolutely INSANE. people act like they killed their first born like?????????

#2 Just a reminder that Cardi B, Dr Dre, and Drake don’t write all their lyrics.

#2 It’s their third language and you expect them to right native level bars???😑
And fyi Maya and Cocona do have credits for writing the song ‘Show you can’
Even in their blog Simon, their CEO talked about Chisa practicing producing songs in their blogs so do give them some time to learn.
Even western artists like Drake, Cardi b hire lyricist to write their songs so I don’t see any problem here.

3. SM IS DROPPING A BRITISH K-POP GROUP!? WTF-😂💀 As a brit, I have to admit, from where I’m from, the K-pop industry or K-pop in general is NEVER mentioned in BRITLAND. And if it was, it would be talked so badly about.

Lesserafim needs to take a break right now im genuinely worried especially for eunchae. I can get criticizing them but no one know the difference between criticism and hate. The moment people started talking about yunjins' body and her pre debut photos i knew it would be ugly.

All your favorite rappers on the radio have had ghostwriters. People are just looking for things to throw shade. XG is the only triple threat crew that can body, rapping, vocals, and dance. Yes I called them a crew because they move like a high level dance crew.

candy shop wth is this name
lmao nowdays groups are coming with ridiculous name which doesn't have any meaning

Writing your own songs doesn't make u a good rapper lol

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Who cares if XG doesn’t write their own music at least they can sing and dance literally can’t say that about 90% of kpop groups these days

3. Its not a "British KPOP group", its a UK Boy Band and SM has a hand in it along with a UK label. Not y'all thinking bunch of Brits learning korean and singing in kpop. Y'all tripping! Its just a boy band, with SM being a shareholder for their debut. BIG DIFFERENCE

I really love XG and I hope in the future they will work some or more behind credits.
But knowing the girls, I'm sure they're working on it.

Kpop stans and haters are getting too comfortable in hating le sserafim that they dont even care anymore like even if the video is related to other group or artist they are dragging le sserafim trolling making fun of them and hating them.. also those trash knetz after being sued by somu they are feeling guilty and sorry like what?!

yujin is the loml but she is not a better dancer than gaeul 💀 she’s a better performer.

The whole hate train towards lesserafim is so frustrating. The conspiracy theories are so wild. And the racist comments towards the Japanese members of both illit and lesserafim is absolutely disgusting.
I feel bad for the girls especially Eunchae. She has been getting a lot of unnecessary hate recently. I hope hybe takes some strict actions this time.

Sm teaming up with a uk tv production company to form a boyband... simon cowell has been making noise about forming a new boy group recently, so maybe he wants in on that kpop market.

"Candy Shop", "Baby Monster", "Bad Villain" are on the list of BAD kpop group names. They sound like a kids tv show or wannabe brats.

"bubblegum nightmare, Carmeal confession" stop you're too funny 😭

ppl complaining abput XG not writing their own lyrics in their third language (which they actually started to get hands on) are just betas who are threatened that their fav groups are being taken over. there are literally the only TWO things these haters could say about XG, "they dont write their own lyrics" and "they are in korea but not kpop!", they couldn't even pick out any other flaws to say other than these two dumb complaints. come on, list me other kpop girl groups that write their own rap lines, i will wait.

In reality nobody cares about writers. But in kpop they need drama and hence my favourite write, produced.

I'm completely f*cking fed up with the hate train on le sserafim. People are acting so genuinely personally offended that those girls don't sing well live like it's the first time in history that a girl group didn't have stupendous vocals. Just let it go already 😒 Coachella was like 2 months ago at this point, bruh

XG is a team which includes their entire crew which includes Simon, chancellor and sienna and a lot more it's everybody's success and it's XG's success.. I have nothing but love for XG

About XG, actually it's much harder to deliver lines that you have no Idea where the reference comes from mostly in rap. So I think they are being mentored about Hiphop culture as well.

You only spit only FACTS when speaking on XG!!! 🔥🔥🔥 Non-fans + haters always try to pull that “but they don’t even write their own lyrics” card like it’s just THAT easy too and in a non native language at that lol 😂

That people would think that XG would not know what the social and cultural references of the verses in their songs is utterly stupid. Simon and their writers would absolutly be sure that the girls understood the slang, the cultural significance of 'rap and hip hop' and that it to be taken seriously and to never disrespect it. Since their earliest song Tippy Toes and up to New DNA GRG GVNG, one of their longtime songwriters is a Black Woman, Rachel West.

SM always wanted to make big in the West. What happened to BTS is what they always aspirated to happen to their groups (SuperM).

i am very worried for lesserafim members i saw those comments they were nasty i am very worried about the girls especially eunchae she is 17 imagine dealing with this type of hate at age of 17,

Acco Reports many started apologizing since they got notices from somu, pannchoa started deleting hating articles abt Lsf(OOPS SOURCE FOR TOKKIS & MHJ CULT IS GONE😭).... like people were acting as if they did some crime.... & even started degrading their performing skills too, comparing them to avg performers just bcoz they got hate for singing

2 - expect that they would have criticisms like this...especially those who are just crawling out of their caves hearing real rapping for the 1st time...yep, it's not just singing fast, rhymes and beats...(and the obvious that you UNDERSTAND the lyrics)....stop comparing your favorite groups to these girls and just add them to ur favorites, coz its going to be divine intervention 4 u 😂

out of all ethnicity groups SM CHOOSES BRITISH, unless it aint drill barely any1 will like it, that is so stupid atp its like they have a lack of ideas

I love Le Sserafim❤
I love New Jeans❤
I love Illit❤
I felt that just needed to be said
Oh...and I love a bunch of other kpop groups to

the only update I care to hear about from SM is what hell there doing with RV. there og, ground breaking group that's pulled them out financial distress more then it can be counted, is about to have there 10 year anniversary....aint no way IN HELL the well established, well loved, and talented members themselves should be currently speaking out on the all the DEAD SILENCE they've gotten since before last year from their own company.

Off topic but Sakura in the thumbnail is so slay

The IVE one is honestly wrong. Yujin, as amazing as she is, is in fact not as precise as Gaeul. She’s more powerful (and has better stage presence/facial expressions for sure), but she’s not as good as Gaeul when it comes to technique.
Let’s not pretend that the reason she gets so much center time and the dance breaks isn’t because of her popularity and because she’s a former member of IZ*ONE.
Don’t get me wrong, I think she’s one of the best dancers in IVE for sure, but she isn’t better than Gaeul. They are pretty much on par with each other and excel in different areas.

1. I wish lsf just went on hiatus of even 6 months. Thats a lot of time to improve vocally and not deal with hate to cause mental health issues.
2. XG is getting those accusations because theyre getting bigger. Haters know their faves could never so why not throw the ghost writing issue in the mix. Not all artists are going to write their music. And it's okay. What matters is if it sounds good or not.
3. Why British kpop bg?? For what?? Vcha and katseye havent been successful in any way so why bother doing that as well.

1. And the haters who commented that sh*t coming out saying that they don’t deserve to get sued, bro the level of entitlement. Like bro I’m scared for Le Sserafim. I pray they’re doing okay mentally
2. I really do think the writing comments is unnecessary. Their skills are crazy and we also need to shed light on Chisa and Maya because if you watch the Shooting Star recording video, you can just tell they are itching to get more hands on in the process of making their music. I can feel writing credits coming soon

#3 Oh my. Britain isn’t the right market for a cultivating a kpop boy group. This could be really brutal

5. Heavy on this one ! When we look at melon top 100, it's clear that the top 3 gg in 4th gen in Korea are aespa (4 song right now on the top 100), ive (6 song on the top, love dive never leave since its released) and newjeans (8 songs, like wow).
8. True, if people can watch in theater the same movie twice or more, why can't they also attend multiples concerts?

3. THEY'RE MAKING A WHAT...
Who made this idea, I need names..VCHA and Katseye is one thing.. yeah I won't say nun bout that..
BUT A WHOLE ASS BRITISH GROUP IS ANOTHER..
but hey, if we get some UK Drill then fine, i'll zip my lips and eat my words. Because lowkey? UK Drill aint bad, it's pretty fire. But if it aint that then I might just say sum !
4. AGREED !! Like.. there was some point that I was like "Yeah, Stray Kids kinda fumbled with this one".
But then when I saw the comments under Chans instagram post I was like.. "Have yall lost the plot??"
Like.. it was NASTYY.. and I was honestly horrified . Ever since the collab with Stray Kids and Charlie Puth, it has went from Educating and Boycotting to being straight up horrific in the name of Boycotting and Educating. And at this point? It's losing the plot? Do people forget that idols are humans too with emotions and feelings?? Im like "Yall are acting like the kids sold their soul to the devil", it's one english track that they might have fumbled on, but they can actually.. grow.
But hey, apparently idols were supposed to be saints..so ..

#4 I dunno if it's hypocritical or not, but isn't that just how the fans show that they care about the hard work of their idol who has prepared so much to do the concert? Sure, maybe doing so can gauge the companies to work their artist more than before, but I think the contradicting stance fans have is actually refers to: everything in excessive amount is never good. Fans will complaint to the company for overworking their favs BECAUSE they are, and fans will also demand a selfie because maybe, just maybe, there are no REGULAR update from their certain favs when the other members (in the same group) have many activities or interacting with fans regularly on social media. I think companies need to manage how to regulate their artists exposure to media.
But, maybe I haven't been exposed too much to the dark side of several fandoms, so that's just my take from what I've seen.

Its like people hate their life and they have to hate someone, if famous its better people love to say how they know more than the experts

why do I feel like atee*z also has a forced hate train? atee*z has a 2nd win and apprantly its illegally even though they had multiple categorys they needed to win in.

These girls are getting death threats for breathing at this point. I understand criticism based on their vocals. No one would call them a vocal group but they are still a pretty young group. There still so much time for improvement. I hope people can look at these girls with kindness and patience in the future.

Facts about XG! Ghost writing is a prolific and lucrative profession and many rappers today use them to write bars, so eff them haters who wanna try to slight XG’s talent

Critics on LE SERAFIM start from Coachella ...bactrack perfomance ...( dat sh*t not past on Coachella sory)
End internacional fans start dat ....with critics ...bat netizens finish with forse hate comments ....

Le serrafim is literally being bullied. The "constructive criticism" ended months ago and now it's just sending death threats to them like wtf???? And these same people will act all sad and say "oh no we need to protect idols" blah blah
Knetz literally NEVER learn from past mistakes. This is no different than what they did to sulli

please half the rappers in the U.S. now days dont write their own raps, male and female rappers, so they cant even criticize idols on that anymore,

don’t cry is a pre-release--

Wow, I've never seen anyone so confident to say in way you would. Now I dare you to say the exact same opinions to the respective idols.

Question about #1. Are insinuating that minheejin was the cause of the hate? Just a little confused 🤔. Cause I thought it was about the COCHELLA performance. I don’t remember anyone mentioning something that minheejin did to le sserafim, i thought all that she did was talk about illit. (Not trying to cause problems just like really understand before anyone of you company stans start trying to start something) 😅

Your whole video is flawed cuz if you take one side of the story and not take the other that means new jeans without mihi. Jin didn't have a chance. And I would say new jeans has done a much better job of promoting k-pop than unless seraphim through their talent alone

I feel so bad for LE SSERAFIM 😢

Those haters saying that XG is not writing their own lyrics etc those are kpop stan that XG outraped their fav fr ,

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This Le Sera hate-train just drew my attention to Sakura (who I never really paid attention to) and made me a big fan of her. Her stage presence has acc gone a long way to distract me from their weaker points throughout this whole thing ngl. Sucks that fans are piling on like this- hopefully having the comments off for a while will help reset the vibes.

Rap has a long history of some of the best being written for. But I fully suspect this group will get more and more involved as things continue and I think they even suggest stuff now at times.

Brave Sound always gives his best tracks to other groups and I still don't understand it.

Ik people are getting pissed with k pop going for global groups( not sonsging in korean anymore)
But i dont think its a bad idea
Its not like girl/boy groups originally started from korea
If it was a non k pop company starting a group i dont think people would be complaining.
I think one of the reason's why companies collaborate with k pop companies is because the k pop companies know how to ig " manage " a group and not make the members fall apart unlees something comes ap.
I also find it as a nice approcah to bring back groups/bands tht dont sing korea since not alot are known
And the most famous ones some have broken up or lost a member

You can’t blame MHJ completely cause the hate started because of Coachella, everyone knows that the comments were so bad even on Eunchae’s instagram after Coachella before the Hybe drama. Yes MHJ contributed but not so much cause she just said NJs was supposed to debut before them wait and the cult sh*t that made it worse . But it started cause of their various encores and coachella performances

6. I have an opinion about the dancer in IVE, Liz is an amazing dancer too, i noticed it after she when viral for many moves she does, the girl isn´t only and AMAZING sing but dancer too, for me is: 1. Yujin 2. Liz/Gaeul

Girl, they gonna get you SM 😂❤

Girl do you live in the Uk? I don’t know how you can talk about the attitude towards something in a country that you’re not in

I hope buakaw is in k-pop in the future 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

don't get me wrong i'm not exactly Min Heejin's no.1 supporter but I do think the haters are only using MHJ as a face for their hate, MHJ brought up LSFM's name because it was promised to her when she signed as the ADOR CEO that NewJeans would debut before LSFM, which wasn't upholded by HYBE, and this was also brought up in court by their lawyers, I don't think MHJ wanted hate for ILLIT or LSFM at all, but felt the need to bring it up because her legal promises weren't upholded by HYBE.

Wait a minute. You want the LS hate train to go away, but you're perfectly happy to keep stoking the Anti-MHJ engine. MHJ had a legitimate complaint that LS debuted ahead of New Jeans, which was not what YG promised, and that YG has neglected NJ, favoring LS. That's it. MHJ has never criticized the members or their efforts. She's said that Illit has copied NJ too, but all of these are criticisms of Management, not the members. I can't see that MHJ, having worked for so long in the industry, would ever want to discourage anyone's dreams. So cool it unless it's really warranted...

i just want to say, i’m always active under all your videos. sometimes i will just give it a like, because i don’t have anything to say in the comments. i love all your takes.

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2. I don't like their raps. They're just not my type
7. Not really. If they drink starbuck that doesnt mean they support gen*cide or if they say n word that doesnt mean they support sl*very.
9. They're kindra cringe.

The hate that LE SSERAFIM get's is because some people are hateful idiots and have nothing better to do, trying to push the blame on Min Hee-jin is lazy and simply not true, they've been getting massive hate ever since the encore stage and hasn't stopped since, Min Hee-Jin didn't say anything wrong about LE SSERAFIM she only pointed out she was lied to because NewJeans was supposed to debut first, which is true because Huh Yun-Jin used to train with NewJeans then she was suddenly called by Hybe to join LE SSERAFIM which means NEWJEAN members was already together and formed while HYBE was still selecting members for LE SSERAFIM, True or Not True doesn't matter, there isn't anything in the statement to cause anyone to hate on anyone, It's just people so hateful they use anything they can, but by you blaming Min Hee-Jin you are taking the blame off the idiots and pointing it elsewhere.

The hate on le serrafim is so funny lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂

#2 yes flow and cadence have a big impact but like we’ve seen in the past with rappers in the west having ghostwriters does damage to your reputation, though i guess with k-pop people get away with it

not sh*t talking but but XG's lyrics are just so cringe.
their concept is really mind blowing... if only they put that much effort into making their lyrics a bit better like what is "woke up looking like this so dont get under my skin" even supposed to say. i've noticed the weird lyrics since their debut days but i thought eventually it'll get better once they find their solid sound but no its just not fitting.

르세라핌은 이미 한국에서 망했다.😂